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		<link>http://sarocks.co.za/2009/03/13/do-south-africans-want-south-africa-to-fail/comment-page-2/#comment-45931</link>
		<dc:creator>custom software development</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jul 2011 18:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This may be off base, but how about changing the layout every now and then? Maybe not if it won&#039;t look right though. My own computer has about 1000 wallpapers that randomly rotate every 15 minutes, lol. Adult ADD I guess. Good post though, thanks.

Thanks, 
Mary Fisher</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This may be off base, but how about changing the layout every now and then? Maybe not if it won&#8217;t look right though. My own computer has about 1000 wallpapers that randomly rotate every 15 minutes, lol. Adult ADD I guess. Good post though, thanks.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Mary Fisher</p>
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		<title>By: sa</title>
		<link>http://sarocks.co.za/2009/03/13/do-south-africans-want-south-africa-to-fail/comment-page-2/#comment-20537</link>
		<dc:creator>sa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 19:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the world cup, I have started to question all the negativity spread about South Africa. ALL this negativity coming from &quot;white&quot; South Africans. I think this comes from a racist attitude or mindset. If South Africa, as a democracy, is successful, they think it will mean bad for &quot;whites&quot;, or that &quot;whites&quot; are not superior, but equals to others. And many &quot;white&quot; South Africans see the darker skin colors as inferiors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the world cup, I have started to question all the negativity spread about South Africa. ALL this negativity coming from &#8220;white&#8221; South Africans. I think this comes from a racist attitude or mindset. If South Africa, as a democracy, is successful, they think it will mean bad for &#8220;whites&#8221;, or that &#8220;whites&#8221; are not superior, but equals to others. And many &#8220;white&#8221; South Africans see the darker skin colors as inferiors.</p>
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		<title>By: NIck</title>
		<link>http://sarocks.co.za/2009/03/13/do-south-africans-want-south-africa-to-fail/comment-page-2/#comment-20014</link>
		<dc:creator>NIck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 09:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ian and Robert,

Most people that left RSA are very happy.  They left for very valid reasons.  And yes, some of these people are scarred as they lost loved ones or were victims.  So please, have a bit of respect ok.  
The bitter ones go back to RSA - ask Nic as he has all the stats.  The bitter ones can not make it overseas and that is why they run back to RSA.  Classic isńt it?

The Braves RSA one are the ones that leave.  They are the ones that take teh risk and look after their families and make a better life for them.  I feel sorry for the people that want to leave RSA but can not.  I do not feel sorry for the ones that deny the problems and have no real plan (Nic) to overcome the RSA issues.

@Peppy.
¨Stop being negative¨ - So RSA peopel should be positive and all the badd issues will go away?  I think your RSA solution is to get angry, rise up, make a plan, execute a plan and change things.  Being possitive and hugging trees and smiling to other people and denying the problems will not solve your RSA issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ian and Robert,</p>
<p>Most people that left RSA are very happy.  They left for very valid reasons.  And yes, some of these people are scarred as they lost loved ones or were victims.  So please, have a bit of respect ok.<br />
The bitter ones go back to RSA &#8211; ask Nic as he has all the stats.  The bitter ones can not make it overseas and that is why they run back to RSA.  Classic isńt it?</p>
<p>The Braves RSA one are the ones that leave.  They are the ones that take teh risk and look after their families and make a better life for them.  I feel sorry for the people that want to leave RSA but can not.  I do not feel sorry for the ones that deny the problems and have no real plan (Nic) to overcome the RSA issues.</p>
<p>@Peppy.<br />
¨Stop being negative¨ &#8211; So RSA peopel should be positive and all the badd issues will go away?  I think your RSA solution is to get angry, rise up, make a plan, execute a plan and change things.  Being possitive and hugging trees and smiling to other people and denying the problems will not solve your RSA issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. K. Maraj (Peppy)</title>
		<link>http://sarocks.co.za/2009/03/13/do-south-africans-want-south-africa-to-fail/comment-page-2/#comment-19889</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. K. Maraj (Peppy)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 18:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah!!! Things may not be as we hoped them to be after the bloodless revolution of 1994. Who can make it happen. Only you and I. This is our country. We must love it. We must work hard together - all of us - stop complaining. Nobody will listen. Make this country a better place for our children and for generations to follow. Its about time we stopped squealing and ask ourselves the question... What are we doing for our country?
If Americans, Britons and oters all over the world can love their country, why shouldn&#039;t we? Stop being negative. South Africa is a country that can teach the world a lot. Be a proud South African. Dr K. Maraj (Peppy)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah!!! Things may not be as we hoped them to be after the bloodless revolution of 1994. Who can make it happen. Only you and I. This is our country. We must love it. We must work hard together &#8211; all of us &#8211; stop complaining. Nobody will listen. Make this country a better place for our children and for generations to follow. Its about time we stopped squealing and ask ourselves the question&#8230; What are we doing for our country?<br />
If Americans, Britons and oters all over the world can love their country, why shouldn&#8217;t we? Stop being negative. South Africa is a country that can teach the world a lot. Be a proud South African. Dr K. Maraj (Peppy)</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://sarocks.co.za/2009/03/13/do-south-africans-want-south-africa-to-fail/comment-page-2/#comment-19853</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 11:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ian: Sadly, you don&#039;t need to be trawling the web for anything remotely South African to find bad, really bad news about the place.

I think many are simply bitter because they have had to relocate for one reason or another.

Me... well life is relatively good, still.  I&#039;m not even South African and yet I remain here.  If I had kids... well, that&#039;s whole other discussion.  While it&#039;s great to be optimistic, others are also allowed to be pessimistic.  Such is the nature of things.  Somewhere in-between we have the truth... and it&#039;s not quite stable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ian: Sadly, you don&#8217;t need to be trawling the web for anything remotely South African to find bad, really bad news about the place.</p>
<p>I think many are simply bitter because they have had to relocate for one reason or another.</p>
<p>Me&#8230; well life is relatively good, still.  I&#8217;m not even South African and yet I remain here.  If I had kids&#8230; well, that&#8217;s whole other discussion.  While it&#8217;s great to be optimistic, others are also allowed to be pessimistic.  Such is the nature of things.  Somewhere in-between we have the truth&#8230; and it&#8217;s not quite stable.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 17:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spot on article Nic, you hit the nail on the head.  
It&#039;s so funny how you get some disgruntled Saffa&#039;s (see &quot;Ex South African Aussie&quot; comment) who tell you how crap South Africa is and how wonderful their new home is, and yet STILL spend hours trawling the web for anything remotely South African.  
It&#039;s quite apparent that despite all their negativity, they simply can&#039;t move on in life...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spot on article Nic, you hit the nail on the head.<br />
It&#8217;s so funny how you get some disgruntled Saffa&#8217;s (see &#8220;Ex South African Aussie&#8221; comment) who tell you how crap South Africa is and how wonderful their new home is, and yet STILL spend hours trawling the web for anything remotely South African.<br />
It&#8217;s quite apparent that despite all their negativity, they simply can&#8217;t move on in life&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: rooster</title>
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		<dc:creator>rooster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 10:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok folks. What you need to understand is most of the negative stuff comes from expats. They pretend to be &quot;concerned&quot; citizens but really their agenda is far less noble. Yes, they want to see South Africa fail. Every bad story they read about South Africa helps them deal with the homesickness and bitterness. It&#039;s  psychological dynamic I&#039;ve been writing about for months at my blog which you will find by clicking on my name. 

Of course it&#039;s not that simple and it&#039;s not always purely 100% homesickness. Some people have been the victims of crime and we don&#039;t degrudge them. Their anger at the entire country is a bit misplaced but grieving people can&#039;t always be expected to be rational. Then you get the indocrinated old schoolers who left in 1994 or something out of pure fear that black people were going to take revenge. They quite typically served in the militiary and have some silly ideas about black people. A lot of projected guilt to. 

Then you get the people who lived in JHB. Why they go to the effort to emmigrate and hate the country instead of just moving to the coast I don&#039;t know. Considering white South Africans have a 12 in 100 000 chance of being murdered (1 in 33 murders is white) and even less at the coast , you&#039;re more likely to commit suicide in Britain that get murdered here (15 in 100 000). So think about that. 

(this is the guy who did the study to determine the white murder rate : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonny_Steinberg )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok folks. What you need to understand is most of the negative stuff comes from expats. They pretend to be &#8220;concerned&#8221; citizens but really their agenda is far less noble. Yes, they want to see South Africa fail. Every bad story they read about South Africa helps them deal with the homesickness and bitterness. It&#8217;s  psychological dynamic I&#8217;ve been writing about for months at my blog which you will find by clicking on my name. </p>
<p>Of course it&#8217;s not that simple and it&#8217;s not always purely 100% homesickness. Some people have been the victims of crime and we don&#8217;t degrudge them. Their anger at the entire country is a bit misplaced but grieving people can&#8217;t always be expected to be rational. Then you get the indocrinated old schoolers who left in 1994 or something out of pure fear that black people were going to take revenge. They quite typically served in the militiary and have some silly ideas about black people. A lot of projected guilt to. </p>
<p>Then you get the people who lived in JHB. Why they go to the effort to emmigrate and hate the country instead of just moving to the coast I don&#8217;t know. Considering white South Africans have a 12 in 100 000 chance of being murdered (1 in 33 murders is white) and even less at the coast , you&#8217;re more likely to commit suicide in Britain that get murdered here (15 in 100 000). So think about that. </p>
<p>(this is the guy who did the study to determine the white murder rate : <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonny_Steinberg" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonny_Steinberg</a> )</p>
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		<title>By: oi</title>
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		<dc:creator>oi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 06:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick,

Thanks you for your insightfull comments about Australia.

All I can say to you is that you should rather go and work &amp; live in a country before you just say it&#039;s not for you.

Aussie is 1st world and ZA is 3rd world.  You can not compare the two.

Just as you seem to live in denial about RSA&#039;s situation, seems like you live in denial about how to form an opinion about a country.  (&#039;Stralia probably will not let you in ... is that why you dislike it?) Os is it because there are far less crime, a much better GDP, a lower inflation, more beaches, less people, stronger currancy, not so badly affected by this recession....shall we continue?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick,</p>
<p>Thanks you for your insightfull comments about Australia.</p>
<p>All I can say to you is that you should rather go and work &amp; live in a country before you just say it&#8217;s not for you.</p>
<p>Aussie is 1st world and ZA is 3rd world.  You can not compare the two.</p>
<p>Just as you seem to live in denial about RSA&#8217;s situation, seems like you live in denial about how to form an opinion about a country.  (&#8216;Stralia probably will not let you in &#8230; is that why you dislike it?) Os is it because there are far less crime, a much better GDP, a lower inflation, more beaches, less people, stronger currancy, not so badly affected by this recession&#8230;.shall we continue?</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 08:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been to Australia. Three times. My Dad emigrated there and I could&#039;ve too. After visiting I came home and threw out the Emigration paper-work.

My sister actually came back from there on Saturday. She still lives here. So does my brother.

I&#039;ve visited 10 countries, I&#039;d rather live in about eight of them than Australia.

Why are you on this site (it&#039;s called SA Rocks) if you&#039;re trying to get people to move from SA?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been to Australia. Three times. My Dad emigrated there and I could&#8217;ve too. After visiting I came home and threw out the Emigration paper-work.</p>
<p>My sister actually came back from there on Saturday. She still lives here. So does my brother.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve visited 10 countries, I&#8217;d rather live in about eight of them than Australia.</p>
<p>Why are you on this site (it&#8217;s called SA Rocks) if you&#8217;re trying to get people to move from SA?</p>
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		<title>By: Ex South African Aussie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ex South African Aussie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 14:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come over to Australia to see how things are done and how everyone lives in harmony. Once you have been here you will love it and not want to go back. Quality of life is so much better here. South Africa has failed already - but sadly most South African won&#039;t admit to the crime and corruption. They are immune to it already. If you love South Africa more than your family&#039;s welfare - stay there - enjoy it while it lasts...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come over to Australia to see how things are done and how everyone lives in harmony. Once you have been here you will love it and not want to go back. Quality of life is so much better here. South Africa has failed already &#8211; but sadly most South African won&#8217;t admit to the crime and corruption. They are immune to it already. If you love South Africa more than your family&#8217;s welfare &#8211; stay there &#8211; enjoy it while it lasts&#8230;</p>
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