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	<title>Comments on: Dual passports, who has what, where and how?</title>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://sarocks.co.za/2007/11/02/daul-passports-who-has-what-where-and-how/comment-page-4/#comment-69595</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 10:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello , is it true in some cases if you got married abroad and now have dual citizenship with a local person from that country that the person will not lose their SA citizenship in this case ? Also in this situation there is no need to ask permission if that person already has the two citizenship&#039;s already ?

cheers mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello , is it true in some cases if you got married abroad and now have dual citizenship with a local person from that country that the person will not lose their SA citizenship in this case ? Also in this situation there is no need to ask permission if that person already has the two citizenship&#8217;s already ?</p>
<p>cheers mike</p>
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		<title>By: Esther</title>
		<link>http://sarocks.co.za/2007/11/02/daul-passports-who-has-what-where-and-how/comment-page-4/#comment-67697</link>
		<dc:creator>Esther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 20:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Say you have a dual passport (UK/SA or EU/SA) how do you use it (according to law)? e.g do you leave SA on your SA passport and enter Europe on your EU passport, repeating the process when returning, leaving on EU and returning on SA,or do you have to show both in both countries? or how does it work?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Say you have a dual passport (UK/SA or EU/SA) how do you use it (according to law)? e.g do you leave SA on your SA passport and enter Europe on your EU passport, repeating the process when returning, leaving on EU and returning on SA,or do you have to show both in both countries? or how does it work?</p>
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		<title>By: Esther</title>
		<link>http://sarocks.co.za/2007/11/02/daul-passports-who-has-what-where-and-how/comment-page-4/#comment-67695</link>
		<dc:creator>Esther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 20:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey! I was born and live in SA (and have a SA passport) and dont know of any relatives from UK/EU, but I have the need to obtain a passport to UK or europe. Is this possible? How long does it take to go through the process? Please help!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey! I was born and live in SA (and have a SA passport) and dont know of any relatives from UK/EU, but I have the need to obtain a passport to UK or europe. Is this possible? How long does it take to go through the process? Please help!</p>
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		<title>By: Unique Hoodia Does It Work</title>
		<link>http://sarocks.co.za/2007/11/02/daul-passports-who-has-what-where-and-how/comment-page-4/#comment-65353</link>
		<dc:creator>Unique Hoodia Does It Work</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2011 22:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://sarocks.co.za/2007/11/02/daul-passports-who-has-what-where-and-how/comment-page-4/#comment-64699</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 14:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mont Kiara:
Having dual passports does not necessarily mean you hold dual citizenship - the one passport might be as a result of your having residency status in a particular country, which is not the same thing as citizenship.

Dual citizenship is, essentially, the position held when an individual is claimed as a national by more than one country.  It is not an agreement BETWEEN countries at all.  In my case, it would mean that South Africa claims me as a citizens, as does the Netherlands.

I&#039;ve just gotten off the phone with someone at the Dutch embassy.  I am what is known as &quot;latent Dutch&quot; ie I have a Dutch mother and non-Dutch father.  Until quite recently, I was unable to claim Dutch citizenship by descent as the law would not grant citzenship to children of Dutch mothers who were born before 1985.  This law has now been changed.

Essentially, once I go through the naturalisation process, I will be granted a Dutch passport without having to renounce my South African citizenship.

The new ruling in South African law makes traveling outside of South Africa on a foreign passport permissible.  It is required, however, to leave and enter South Africa using a South African passport.

Essentially, South Africa no longer removes someone&#039;s citizenship if they hold citizenship elsewhere; it was found to be unconstitutional.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mont Kiara:<br />
Having dual passports does not necessarily mean you hold dual citizenship &#8211; the one passport might be as a result of your having residency status in a particular country, which is not the same thing as citizenship.</p>
<p>Dual citizenship is, essentially, the position held when an individual is claimed as a national by more than one country.  It is not an agreement BETWEEN countries at all.  In my case, it would mean that South Africa claims me as a citizens, as does the Netherlands.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve just gotten off the phone with someone at the Dutch embassy.  I am what is known as &#8220;latent Dutch&#8221; ie I have a Dutch mother and non-Dutch father.  Until quite recently, I was unable to claim Dutch citizenship by descent as the law would not grant citzenship to children of Dutch mothers who were born before 1985.  This law has now been changed.</p>
<p>Essentially, once I go through the naturalisation process, I will be granted a Dutch passport without having to renounce my South African citizenship.</p>
<p>The new ruling in South African law makes traveling outside of South Africa on a foreign passport permissible.  It is required, however, to leave and enter South Africa using a South African passport.</p>
<p>Essentially, South Africa no longer removes someone&#8217;s citizenship if they hold citizenship elsewhere; it was found to be unconstitutional.</p>
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		<title>By: Mont Kiara Condominium for sale</title>
		<link>http://sarocks.co.za/2007/11/02/daul-passports-who-has-what-where-and-how/comment-page-4/#comment-62191</link>
		<dc:creator>Mont Kiara Condominium for sale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2011 01:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dual passport means that you have dual citizenship right? But I don&#039;t know how it really works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dual passport means that you have dual citizenship right? But I don&#8217;t know how it really works.</p>
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		<title>By: Citizenship Card</title>
		<link>http://sarocks.co.za/2007/11/02/daul-passports-who-has-what-where-and-how/comment-page-4/#comment-59595</link>
		<dc:creator>Citizenship Card</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 20:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sharon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2011 18:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was wondering if anyone knew who I request a the letter from that I am not a citizen yet in USA? Everyone seems to be doing either their British or Oz citizenship but I am having a hard time finding out who to request that letter from here in the USA. Called the SA consulate here in Los Angeles but no one has got back to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was wondering if anyone knew who I request a the letter from that I am not a citizen yet in USA? Everyone seems to be doing either their British or Oz citizenship but I am having a hard time finding out who to request that letter from here in the USA. Called the SA consulate here in Los Angeles but no one has got back to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Sparrow</title>
		<link>http://sarocks.co.za/2007/11/02/daul-passports-who-has-what-where-and-how/comment-page-4/#comment-50992</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Sparrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have recently applied for my British Passport as my dad was born in the UK. I have lived in South Africa my whole life. I received my passport before I knew about applying for dual citizenship through Home Affairs. 

A friend told me that you automatically loose SA citizenship only if you settle in the UK and apply for citizenship (spouse of a citizen or student etc...). But if you apply for a passport because of a UK parent you do not loose SA citizenship. Any comments? does that sound right? 

I leave for the UK next month and will probably give the guy at customs both passports not knowing what to do...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have recently applied for my British Passport as my dad was born in the UK. I have lived in South Africa my whole life. I received my passport before I knew about applying for dual citizenship through Home Affairs. </p>
<p>A friend told me that you automatically loose SA citizenship only if you settle in the UK and apply for citizenship (spouse of a citizen or student etc&#8230;). But if you apply for a passport because of a UK parent you do not loose SA citizenship. Any comments? does that sound right? </p>
<p>I leave for the UK next month and will probably give the guy at customs both passports not knowing what to do&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sabine</title>
		<link>http://sarocks.co.za/2007/11/02/daul-passports-who-has-what-where-and-how/comment-page-4/#comment-25923</link>
		<dc:creator>Sabine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jan 2011 16:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My parents immigrated to South Africa from Germany before i was born. When i was born in South Africa they applied for both passports for me as i was entitled to them. I now live in the UK. Before we (me, hubby and child) came to the UK in 2000 i applied for and received  the &#039;dual citizenship&#039; letter. This letter has now expired and so has my South African passport. AM i still entitled to renew my SA passport and do i need to reapply for dual nationality? 
(I am also in the process of applying for my husbands dual nationality and then his British passport due to length of stay in the UK)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My parents immigrated to South Africa from Germany before i was born. When i was born in South Africa they applied for both passports for me as i was entitled to them. I now live in the UK. Before we (me, hubby and child) came to the UK in 2000 i applied for and received  the &#8216;dual citizenship&#8217; letter. This letter has now expired and so has my South African passport. AM i still entitled to renew my SA passport and do i need to reapply for dual nationality?<br />
(I am also in the process of applying for my husbands dual nationality and then his British passport due to length of stay in the UK)</p>
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